Prophet Bezmenov

Posted: October 13, 2008 in Commentary, Politics, Remember

Make no mistake about it, America has long been on the road to full compliance of Socialism. In my opinion, under a McCain presidency we will get there fast. Under a Obama presidency, we will get there much faster–plain and simple. While many folks love to romanticize about a society where government controls things like the press, health care, housing, etc., I have learned from history of countries like Russia, China, France, Cuba, Germany and now England that the love affair is only based on a mirage. There is a reason why America has always been the country of choice for those leaving socialist-based countries.

It is my personal belief that the current market crisis isn’t something that just happened. Anybody with a bit of economic knowledge would have known that forcing banks to issue high risk home loans would in fact lead to economic disaster in a country that is rooted in capitalism. If America cannot be defeated on the battlefield, her enemies will find a way to defeat it from within–under the guise of helping the less fortunate.

Yuri Bezmenov is a former KGB propagandist that defected to the West after becoming disillusioned with socialism back in the former Soviet Union. Below is just a partial transcript of an interview he gave back in 1984.

“Yuri Bezmenov on demoralization”

ED GRIFFIN: Well, you spoke before about “ideological subversion” and that’s a phrase that I’m afraid some Americans don’t understand. When the Soviets use the phrase “ideological subversion” what do they mean by it?

1. YURI BEZMENOV: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate and open. You can see it with your own eyes…. It has nothing to do with espionage.

I know that intelligence gathering looks more romantic…. That’s probably why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond types of films. But in reality the main emphasis of the KGB is NOT in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.

It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages. The first stage being “demoralization“. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.

The result? The result you can see — most of the people who graduated in the 60’s, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can’t get through to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.

In other words [for] these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To rid society of these people you need another 15 or 20 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society.

ED: And yet these people who have been programmed and as you say [are] in place and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept – these are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country?

YURI: Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when they will see in [the] future what the beautiful society of EQUALITY and social justice means in practice, obviously they will revolt. They will be very unhappy [and] frustrated people, and Marxist-Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. Obviously they will join the [ranks] of dissenters; dissidents. Unlike the present United States there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist America. [Now] you can get popular like Daniel Elsburg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being a dissident [and] for criticizing your Pentagon. In [the] future these people will simply be [he makes a squishy noise] squashed like cockroaches for criticizing the government. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful [and] noble ideas of EQUALITY. This they don’t understand and it will be the greatest shock for them, of course.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already for the last 25 years. Actually, it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures. …he will refuse to believe it…. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

2. The next stage is destabilization…. It only takes 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation. This time what matters is essentials; economy, foreign relations, [and] defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some… sensitive areas such as defense and [the] economy, the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system train another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime. False. United States is in a state of war; undeclared, total war against the basic principles and foundations of this system. And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov of course – it’s the system. However, ridiculous it may sound, [it is] the world Communist system, or the world Communist conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don’t give a hoot. If you’re not scared by now, nothing can scare you.

ED: Okay, so what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people?

YURI: Well, the immediate thing that comes to mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in the spirit of REAL patriotism, number one. Number two, to explain [to] them the real danger of socialist, communist, welfare state, Big Brother government…. The moment at least part of [the] United States population is convinced that the danger is real, they have to FORCE their government, and I’m not talking about sending letters, signing petitions, and all this beautiful, noble activity, I’m talking about FORCING [the] United States government to stop aiding Communism…. and it is very easy to do; no credits, no technology, no money, no political or diplomatic recognition…

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I’m embedding the short version of the interview, but here is the full 81 minute version [link].

You can also check out Manning Johnson’s book “Color, Communism and Common Sense“. He was a Black member of the American Communist movement whose job was to infiltrate the Black community.

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Comments
  1. DarkStar says:

    When you:

    1. Show me the rules that mandated FDIC covered institutions must lend to people who don’t meet lending standards.

    2. Show me it is NOT true that most “sub-prime” loans were made by FDIC covered institutions.

    3. Show me how failed sub-prime mortgages, which account for 2% of all mortgages, can cause a massive failure of this scale.

    4. All of the failed institutions were over capitalized only because of “sub-prime” loans.

    5. Loose “accounting standards” attributed nothing to the failures.

    6. There are no FDIC covered institutions that did NOT take part in the “sub-prime” loan mess…

    THEN, you can state Anybody with a bit of economic knowledge would have known that forcing banks to issue high risk home loans would in fact lead to economic disaster in a country that is rooted in capitalism. with certainty.

  2. Duane says:

    If banks wanted to expand or merge with other banks (normal growth activity in the free market), the Clinton administration used CRA guidelines as a way to force banks to expand lending to potential borrowers they knew were not credit worthy. ACORN and other groups jumped on this whined until they saw banks expand lending to these groups.

    Andrew Cuomo acknowledged that the Clinton administration pressured banks to “aggressively take a greater risk on these mortgages”.

    youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64

    No­ lo­an i­s ex­em­p­t, no­ b­ank­ i­s i­m­m­u­ne,” warned then-Atto­rney General Janet Reno­. “F­o­r tho­se who­ thu­m­b­ thei­r no­se at u­s, I­ p­ro­m­i­se vi­go­ro­u­s enf­o­rcem­ent.”

    http://www.mediacircus.com/tag/loan-applications/

    Show me how failed sub-prime mortgages, which account for 2% of all mortgages, can cause a massive failure of this scale.

    This was already addressed in this post.

    https://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/the-one-trick-pony-rides-again/

    This post covers some of the other history of how CRA guidelines were used to bully banks to expand their lending practices.

    https://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/some-follow-up-regarding-the-bailout/

    The problem wasn’t that Blacks and other minorities were not able to secure loans. The problem was that minorities WITH BAD CREDIT could were not able to secure mortgages. ACORN and other groups helped turn this thing into a quota issue which got this whole thing started. Pushing home ownership as some sort of right is straight up socialist in tone and directly conflicts with capitalism. Clinton and others were warned that this could cause major economic issues in the future yet folks kept pushing it.

  3. DarkStar says:

    Duane, your links don’t address the fundamental questions I asked.

    How does 2% cause a massive failure when the overall mortgage default rate is 9%?

    60% of “sub-prime” loans were done by institutions NOT covered by the CRA.

    And how are minorities with BAD credit accountable for insane leverage ratios or massive runs on financial institutions whose books were being cooked and people knew it FOR YEARS before the house of cards collapsed.

  4. Duane says:

    Duane, your links don’t address the fundamental questions I asked.

    Ed, did you even read the article in the post from the NY Times? The guy breaks down how these loans were sliced, packaged and repackaged throughout the market.

    And how are minorities with BAD credit accountable for insane leverage ratios or massive runs on financial institutions whose books were being cooked and people knew it FOR YEARS before the house of cards collapsed.

    A-gain–

    I explained all of this in our e-mail exchange some days ago (sigh!).
    This whole policy of extending credit to minorities who were known to have bad credit was started by the CRA. Under Clinton this program was expanded thanks to Fannie and Freddie. Other banks also got involved once they saw the income potential. If you are conducting some sort of witch hunt to see who is blaming Black folks for this, I already told you several times that leaning on banks to issue loans to folks REGARDLESS OF RACE was a dumb idea. Minorities were the initial target for these loans. But again, like I have been saying, the market and government got greedy, non-minorities got involved and here were are. So for the last time, Black folk didn’t start this mess. Socialist policies did. Cite the individuals with their exact quotes who are out there blaming minorities for this mess and I will tell them everything I told you both here and in our e-mail exchange.

    60% of “sub-prime” loans were done by institutions NOT covered by the CRA.

    You are leaving out Fannie & Freddie who one article has them backing about 48% of these loans. HUD encouraged these two entities to get deeper into the game when Bush acknowledged the “good work” they were doing.

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