“Baby killers” no more

Posted: June 5, 2008 in Headlines

As I have said many times in the past, criticism of the war does not make one unpatriotic. It is when folks choose what negative facts they want to believe about the war and use that to make sweeping generalizations about our troops that makes them suspect.

Congressman Jack Murtha is one of those people who I hope read the following article.

US Marine acquitted of all charges in Haditha killings

(AFP) A court martial on Wednesday acquitted a US Marine for his role in the deaths of 24 civilians in Haditha in Iraq in 2005, the sixth man to be exonerated in the affair, a military official said.

Lieutenant Andrew Grayson, 27, was declared “not guilty on all charges” by a jury, said a spokesman for the Camp Pendleton military base in southern California where the hearing started on May 28.

Grayson had been charged with making false statements and attempting to fraudulently separate from the Marine Corps. He was also charged with obstruction of justice, but the military judge dismissed this charge Tuesday.

He was the first Marine to stand trial in connection with the killings of 24 men, women and children in Haditha, the most serious war crime allegations leveled at US forces since the 2003 invasion to topple Saddam Hussein.

On November 19, 2005, a US soldier on patrol was killed by a roadside bomb in the village of Haditha, 260 kilometers (160 miles) west of Baghdad.

Defense lawyers claim insurgents hidden in nearby houses subsequently opened fire on the soldiers, forcing them to respond.

But prosecutors say there were no insurgents, alleging that the soldiers opened fire unprovoked in revenge for their colleague’s death.

In a three-hour shooting spree, they say, the soldiers shot five passengers of an approaching taxi and killed 10 women and children at point blank range, among others.

The Marines said in a press release issued immediately after the killings that 15 Iraqis had been killed by the roadside bomb that claimed the life of Lance Corporal Miguel Terrazas.

A subsequent investigation by Time magazine showed that most of the dead were killed as Marines swept through three houses near the bombing, prompting a wide-ranging internal investigation.

Eight military personnel were originally charged over the incident — four soldiers faced murder charges and four officers, including Grayson, were accused of covering up and failing to properly investigate the killings.

However, since charges were first announced in December 2006, prosecutors have struggled to make the allegations stick.

Six have now had charges against them dropped, while charges of murder against squad leader Frank Wuterich were changed to the lesser offense of manslaughter. (more…)

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Comments
  1. Wizz says:

    The fact that innocent people clearly got killed in this situation does not change. And that is not a sweeping generalization of the troops as you are trying to portray it. The fact that no one is going to jail over this does not mean that something very wrong did not happened.

  2. Duane says:

    The fact that innocent people clearly got killed in this situation does not change

    Who said it did?

    And that is not a sweeping generalization of the troops as you are trying to portray it.

    Dear Lord, WIZZ!!

    Do you not recall what what Murtha said about this situation? Do you not recall how many liberals agreed with him?

    Man…just forget it!

  3. Wizz says:

    Now who needs to calm down?… Murtha said innocent people got killed, and this bogus cover story got made up for whatever reason. The fact that nobody is going to jail does not change that. And NO what he said was not a sweeping generalization of the troops. He didn’t say all our troops are over there shooting up whole families for no reason… Take a chill pill and turn the station from Faux News and Limbaugh every now and then.

  4. Duane says:

    Lawmaker: Marines killed Iraqis ‘in cold blood’

    WASHINGTON – A Pentagon probe into the death of Iraqi civilians last November in the Iraqi city of Haditha will show that U.S. Marines “killed innocent civilians in cold blood,” a U.S. lawmaker said Wednesday.

    […]

    Murtha, a vocal opponent of the war in Iraq, said at a news conference Wednesday that sources within the military have told him that an internal investigation will show that “there was no firefight, there was no IED (improvised explosive device) that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.”

    Now, what you CHOOSE to recall:

    “Murtha said innocent people got killed,…He didn’t say all our troops are over there shooting up whole families for no reason”

    Just leave it alone.

  5. Wizz says:

    Yea I’ll leave it alone because you are obviously on one of your talking point rants…

    1) He was speaking of THIS incident… So by definition it is not a sweeping generalization of “the troops”.

    2) In THIS incident innocent people were killed. If you actually read the FACTS of how the situation actually played out there was no way the cover story that the military put out was true and that people were killed in cold blood, in their homes, including children… Again in THIS incident. Again… Just because nobody is going to jail does not mean that people were not killed in cold blood…. That’s like saying just because nobody went to jail for hanging black folks from trees all is fine. Those were honest good hard working white people.

    Anyway… Go ahead and push your liberals don’t care about the troops talking point. Even though most of the people who push this talking point don’t know a damn thing about serving in the military. Nobody is buying it this year.

  6. Duane says:

    So by definition it is not a sweeping generalization of “the troops”.

    When 6 (six) of the original 8 are acquitted, yes that is a sweeping generalization.

    Just because nobody is going to jail does not mean that people were not killed in cold blood

    What is unfortunate here in this whole exchange you, like many liberals have demonstrated just how far you are willing to go to treat baseless speculation about our troops as the gospel truth in the face of the findings of a court of law. Despite their findings, you are still willing to hold on to the notion that these solders are guilty.

    Go ahead and push your liberals don’t care about the troops talking point.

    Don’t have to as you are doing a find job doing this all on your own.

    Okay, enough already.